>>> NOW WE TURN TO A BIG >>> NOW WE TURN TO A BIG INTERVIEW WITH A FIRST-TIME INTERVIEW WITH A FIRST-TIME GUEST ON "THE BEAT," A MAN AT GUEST ON "THE BEAT," A MAN AT THE CENTER OF THE SDNY PROBE THE CENTER OF THE SDNY PROBE INTO MICHAEL COHEN’S ELECTION INTO MICHAEL COHEN’S ELECTION CRIME BENEFITING THE TRUMP CRIME BENEFITING THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN. CAMPAIGN. KEITH DAVIDSON WAS IN ON THE KEITH DAVIDSON WAS IN ON THE SECRET PAYMENTS DURING THE SECRET PAYMENTS DURING THE ELECTION. ELECTION. DAVIDSON NEGOTIATEING THE DAVIDSON NEGOTIATEING THE NOW-FAMOUS NDAS BETWEEN DRUMPTRU NOW-FAMOUS NDAS BETWEEN DRUMPTRU AND THOSE WOMEN DEALING AND THOSE WOMEN DEALING REGULARLY ON COHEN AND DEALING REGULARLY ON COHEN AND DEALING WITH THE "NATIONAL ENQUIRER" ON WITH THE "NATIONAL ENQUIRER" ON OTHER MATTERS UNDER OTHER MATTERS UNDER INVESTIGATION BY THE SDNY INVESTIGATION BY THE SDNY PROSECUTORS. PROSECUTORS. THAT IS A LOT.
THAT IS A LOT. MR. DAVIDSON HAS MOSTLY KEPT HIS MR. DAVIDSON HAS MOSTLY KEPT HIS SILENCE DURING THE SILENCE DURING THE INVESTIGATION, BUT THE CENTRAL INVESTIGATION, BUT THE CENTRAL ROLE HE PLAYED HAS MANY ANCHORS ROLE HE PLAYED HAS MANY ANCHORS TALKING ABOUT HIM. TALKING ABOUT HIM. >> KEITH DAVIDSON, WHO’S THE >> KEITH DAVIDSON, WHO’S THE ATTORNEY WHO REPRESENTED STORMY ATTORNEY WHO REPRESENTED STORMY DANIELS. DANIELS. >> KEITH DAVIDSON, A LOS ANGELES >> KEITH DAVIDSON, A LOS ANGELES LAWYER, WHO REPRESENTED KAREN LAWYER, WHO REPRESENTED KAREN McDOUGAL. McDOUGAL. >> KEITH DAVIDSON HAS SAID THAT >> KEITH DAVIDSON HAS SAID THAT THE WHOLE STORY HAS NOT COME OUT THE WHOLE STORY HAS NOT COME OUT YET. YET. >> A SPOKESPERSON FOR KEITH >> A SPOKESPERSON FOR KEITH DAVIDSON. DAVIDSON. >> HER FORMER ATTORNEY, KEITH >> HER FORMER ATTORNEY, KEITH DAVIDSON.
DAVIDSON. >> THIS ATTORNEY, KEITH >> THIS ATTORNEY, KEITH DAVIDSON. DAVIDSON. >> THIS ATTORNEY IS FINALLY >> THIS ATTORNEY IS FINALLY BREAKING HIS SILENCE. BREAKING HIS SILENCE. IN FACT, WHAT YOU’RE ABOUT TO IN FACT, WHAT YOU’RE ABOUT TO SEE IS HIS FIRST INTERVIEW ON SEE IS HIS FIRST INTERVIEW ON MSNBC SINCE DONALD TRUMP WAS MSNBC SINCE DONALD TRUMP WAS ELECTED. ELECTED. JOINING ME NOW IS KEITH JOINING ME NOW IS KEITH DAVIDSON. DAVIDSON. THANKS FOR COMING ON "THE BEAT". THANKS FOR COMING ON "THE BEAT". >> THANK YOU, ARI. >> THANK YOU, ARI. NICE TO BE HERE. NICE TO BE HERE. >> GREAT TO HAVE YOU. >> GREAT TO HAVE YOU. LET’S START WITH SOME OF THE LET’S START WITH SOME OF THE BIGGEST NEWS. BIGGEST NEWS. YOU’RE LISTED AMONG THE 81 YOU’RE LISTED AMONG THE 81 PEOPLE THAT THE HOUSE JUDICIARY PEOPLE THAT THE HOUSE JUDICIARY CHAIRMAN IS ASKING FOR CHAIRMAN IS ASKING FOR INFORMATION FROM.
INFORMATION FROM. ARE YOU GOING TO PROVIDE IT? ARE YOU GOING TO PROVIDE IT? >> OF COURSE. >> OF COURSE. YOU KNOW, THEY REACHED OUT TO YOU KNOW, THEY REACHED OUT TO ME. ME. THEY ASKED ME FOR ANY DOCUMENTS THEY ASKED ME FOR ANY DOCUMENTS THAT I HAD GIVEN TO ANY THAT I HAD GIVEN TO ANY GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY, WHICH WAS GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY, WHICH WAS REALLY LIMITED TO THE SDNY. REALLY LIMITED TO THE SDNY. IT WAS ABOUT 1,500 PAGES OF IT WAS ABOUT 1,500 PAGES OF NON-ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGED NON-ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGED MATERIAL THAT I GAVE TO SDNY MATERIAL THAT I GAVE TO SDNY UPON THEIR REQUEST. UPON THEIR REQUEST. AND I WILL MAKE THAT AVAILABLE AND I WILL MAKE THAT AVAILABLE TO THE HOUSE JUDICIARY TO THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE. COMMITTEE. I HAVE ASKED THEM FOR A I HAVE ASKED THEM FOR A SUBPOENA. SUBPOENA. I WASN’T GOING TO VOLUNTARILY I WASN’T GOING TO VOLUNTARILY TURN IT OVER. TURN IT OVER. AND THEY TOLD ME THAT THEY WOULD AND THEY TOLD ME THAT THEY WOULD COMPLY.
COMPLY. >> SO YOU’RE SAYING CHAIRMAN >> SO YOU’RE SAYING CHAIRMAN NADLER TOLD YOU THAT HE’S GOING NADLER TOLD YOU THAT HE’S GOING TO PLAN TO FORMALLY SUBPOENA TO PLAN TO FORMALLY SUBPOENA THAT, SO EVERYTHING YOU GAVE THAT, SO EVERYTHING YOU GAVE SDNY, NADLER WILL HAVE? SDNY, NADLER WILL HAVE? >> YES, I MEAN, HE SENT >> YES, I MEAN, HE SENT INFORMALLY IN THAT LETTER TO THE INFORMALLY IN THAT LETTER TO THE 81 INDIVIDUALS, JUST AN INFORMAL 81 INDIVIDUALS, JUST AN INFORMAL REQUEST, JUST TO DOT THE Is AND REQUEST, JUST TO DOT THE Is AND CROSS THE Ts, I ASKED HIM TO PUT CROSS THE Ts, I ASKED HIM TO PUT NIT A NIT A IT IN A PROPER FORMAT. IT IN A PROPER FORMAT. >> AND HE’S PROBABLY INTERESTED >> AND HE’S PROBABLY INTERESTED IN WHETHER YOU KNOW ABOUT THE IN WHETHER YOU KNOW ABOUT THE MOTIVATION BEHIND THE HUSH MONEY MOTIVATION BEHIND THE HUSH MONEY PAYMENT TO STORMY DANIELS.
PAYMENT TO STORMY DANIELS. WAS THAT, AS THE TRUMP FOLKS WAS THAT, AS THE TRUMP FOLKS HAVE CLAIMED SOMETHING THEY HAVE CLAIMED SOMETHING THEY WOULD HAVE DONE ANYONE UNRELATED WOULD HAVE DONE ANYONE UNRELATED TO THE ELECTION? TO THE ELECTION? >> I DON’T REALLY KNOW THAT, BUT >> I DON’T REALLY KNOW THAT, BUT CAN I TELL YOU I SAT DOWN WITH CAN I TELL YOU I SAT DOWN WITH THE SDNY PROSECUTORS WHO ARE THE SDNY PROSECUTORS WHO ARE ABOUT THE MOST COMPETENT ABOUT THE MOST COMPETENT ATTORNEYS I’VE EVER MET. ATTORNEYS I’VE EVER MET. AND FOR A TIME PERIOD OF THREE AND FOR A TIME PERIOD OF THREE SEPARATE MEETINGS, ABOUT 20 SEPARATE MEETINGS, ABOUT 20 HOURS IN TOTAL.
HOURS IN TOTAL. >> 20 HOURS WITH SDNY. >> 20 HOURS WITH SDNY. >> THAT’S RIGHT. >> THAT’S RIGHT. SO I CAN PUT TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, SO I CAN PUT TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THEIR QUESTIONING, YOU THROUGH THEIR QUESTIONING, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY’RE GOING AND KNOW, WHERE THEY’RE GOING AND WHAT EVIDENCE THEY BELIEVE IS WHAT EVIDENCE THEY BELIEVE IS IMPORTANT. IMPORTANT. AND I THINK THAT, YES, THEY ARE AND I THINK THAT, YES, THEY ARE OF THE OPINION THAT IT WAS OF THE OPINION THAT IT WAS POLITICALLY MOTIVATED. POLITICALLY MOTIVATED. >> BECAUSE IT WAS, BASICALLY, IN >> BECAUSE IT WAS, BASICALLY, IN OCTOBER TO STOP FALLOUT FROM OCTOBER TO STOP FALLOUT FROM "ACCESS HOLLYWOOD"? "ACCESS HOLLYWOOD"? >> YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK IT GETS >> YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK IT GETS A LITTLE MORE IN DEPTH FROM A LITTLE MORE IN DEPTH FROM THAT.
THAT. WE CAN DIVE A LITTLE DEEPER INTO WE CAN DIVE A LITTLE DEEPER INTO IT. IT. AND I THINK WHAT THE SDNY IS AND I THINK WHAT THE SDNY IS RELYING UPON, AND I THINK WHAT RELYING UPON, AND I THINK WHAT WAS — WHAT PROMPTED MICHAEL WAS — WHAT PROMPTED MICHAEL COHEN’S ULTIMATE CHANGE OF PLEA COHEN’S ULTIMATE CHANGE OF PLEA TO GUILTY WAS THAT THE AFFAIRS TO GUILTY WAS THAT THE AFFAIRS HAPPENED IN 2006. HAPPENED IN 2006. MICHAEL COHEN AND I FIRST MICHAEL COHEN AND I FIRST CONTACTED EACH OTHER ABOUT THE CONTACTED EACH OTHER ABOUT THE MATTER IN 2011.
MATTER IN 2011. SO THE AT A MINIMUM, THEY KNEW SO THE AT A MINIMUM, THEY KNEW ABOUT ME AND ABOUT STORMY AT A ABOUT ME AND ABOUT STORMY AT A MINIMUM IN TLEMPB2011, THEY KNEW MINIMUM IN TLEMPB2011, THEY KNEW IT IN 2012 AND ’014. IT IN 2012 AND ’014. >> THEY KNEW ABOUT IT THE WHOLE >> THEY KNEW ABOUT IT THE WHOLE WAY AND THE MONEY ONLY COMES WAY AND THE MONEY ONLY COMES THROUGH AT THE END. THROUGH AT THE END.
I THINK WE FOLLOW YOUR LOGIC I THINK WE FOLLOW YOUR LOGIC THERE. THERE. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE "NATIONAL AND THEN YOU HAVE THE "NATIONAL ENQUIRER" AND THIS WHOLE DEAL. ENQUIRER" AND THIS WHOLE DEAL. WHEN YOU WERE INVOLVED IN THAT, WHEN YOU WERE INVOLVED IN THAT, DID IT SEEM LIKE THAT THEY WERE DID IT SEEM LIKE THAT THEY WERE PAYING KAREN McDOUGAL, YOUR PAYING KAREN McDOUGAL, YOUR FORMER CLIENT, TO HELP DONALD FORMER CLIENT, TO HELP DONALD TRUMP BURY THE STORY? TRUMP BURY THE STORY? >> I’M NOT SO SURE IF I WAS >> I’M NOT SO SURE IF I WAS AWARE OF IT AT THE TIME THAT IT AWARE OF IT AT THE TIME THAT IT WAS THEIR INTENT TO BURY THE WAS THEIR INTENT TO BURY THE STORY, BUT I THINK THAT THEY HAD STORY, BUT I THINK THAT THEY HAD CLEARLY ANNOUNCED THEIR CLEARLY ANNOUNCED THEIR EDITORIAL PREFERENTIAL EDITORIAL PREFERENTIAL CANDIDATE.
CANDIDATE. THEY WERE SPENDING A COPIOUS THEY WERE SPENDING A COPIOUS AMOUNT OF TIME BURYING EVERY AMOUNT OF TIME BURYING EVERY OTHER CANDIDATE FOR THE OFFICE OTHER CANDIDATE FOR THE OFFICE THAN MR. TRUMP. THAN MR. TRUMP. >> HERE’S MISS McDUALOUGALcDOUGA >> HERE’S MISS McDUALOUGALcDOUGA FORMER CLIENT, SHE SAID IT WAS FORMER CLIENT, SHE SAID IT WAS VERY CLEAR THAT AMI WAS TRYING VERY CLEAR THAT AMI WAS TRYING TO MAKE THE STUFF GO AWAY AND TO MAKE THE STUFF GO AWAY AND SHE FELT DECEIVED BY THEM AND SHE FELT DECEIVED BY THEM AND YOU, AMI MEANING THE ENQUIRER. YOU, AMI MEANING THE ENQUIRER. TAKE A LOOK. TAKE A LOOK. >> OKAY. >> OKAY. >> WHY DO YOU THINK THEY >> WHY DO YOU THINK THEY SQUASHED THE STORY? SQUASHED THE STORY? >> BACK THEN OR NOW? >> BACK THEN OR NOW? >> NOW.
>> NOW. >> UM, THEY DIDN’T WANT TO HURT >> UM, THEY DIDN’T WANT TO HURT HIM. HIM. >> YOU THINK IT’S BECAUSE OF A >> YOU THINK IT’S BECAUSE OF A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE GUY WHO RUNS AMI IS FRIENDS WITH GUY WHO RUNS AMI IS FRIENDS WITH DONALD TRUMP? DONALD TRUMP? >> CORRECT. >> CORRECT. >> THAT’S WHAT SHE SAYS. >> THAT’S WHAT SHE SAYS. AND DID YOU BASICALLY SIGN A AND DID YOU BASICALLY SIGN A DEAL THAT INSURED THEY COULD DEAL THAT INSURED THEY COULD BURY THE MATERIAL RATHER THAN BURY THE MATERIAL RATHER THAN PUBLISH IT? PUBLISH IT? >> YOU KNOW, I THINK IF YOU >> YOU KNOW, I THINK IF YOU CONTINUE ON WITH THAT ANDERSON CONTINUE ON WITH THAT ANDERSON COOPER INTERVIEW THAT MISS COOPER INTERVIEW THAT MISS McDOUGAL GAVE, I THINK SHE SAYS McDOUGAL GAVE, I THINK SHE SAYS TOWARDS THE END OR IN FACT I TOWARDS THE END OR IN FACT I KNOW SHE SAYS TOWARDS THE END KNOW SHE SAYS TOWARDS THE END THAT IT WAS A PERFECT DEAL FOR THAT IT WAS A PERFECT DEAL FOR HER, THAT SHE LOVED THE DEAL, HER, THAT SHE LOVED THE DEAL, THAT SHE NEVER WANTED TO TELL THAT SHE NEVER WANTED TO TELL HER STORY.
HER STORY. AND I CAN’T GO ANY DEEPER INTO AND I CAN’T GO ANY DEEPER INTO THE MATTER THAN THAT. THE MATTER THAN THAT. >> IF YOU CAN’T GO DEEPER, I’LL >> IF YOU CAN’T GO DEEPER, I’LL JUMP BACK IN. JUMP BACK IN. IT’S A VERY IMPORTANT THING, AS IT’S A VERY IMPORTANT THING, AS YOU KNOW, WHAT WENT DOWN. YOU KNOW, WHAT WENT DOWN. THAT’S WHY SDNY, WHO YOU’VE THAT’S WHY SDNY, WHO YOU’VE PRAISED, IS LOOKING INTO IT. PRAISED, IS LOOKING INTO IT. RACHEL MADDOW WAS TALKING ABOUT RACHEL MADDOW WAS TALKING ABOUT THEN HOW AFTER THE ELECTION, THEN HOW AFTER THE ELECTION, THEY RUSHED OUT THIS VERY ODD THEY RUSHED OUT THIS VERY ODD USE OF THE MATERIAL THAT YOU USE OF THE MATERIAL THAT YOU NEGOTIATED. NEGOTIATED. TAKE A LOOK. TAKE A LOOK. >> WE JUST GOT THE BRAND-NEW >> WE JUST GOT THE BRAND-NEW COVER OF NEXT MONTH’S MEN’S COVER OF NEXT MONTH’S MEN’S JOURNAL. JOURNAL. AND LOOK! AND LOOK! WHO IS THAT? WHO IS THAT? I MEAN, LITERALLY, GIVEN WHAT I MEAN, LITERALLY, GIVEN WHAT MEN’S JOURNAL USUALLY DOES FOR A MEN’S JOURNAL USUALLY DOES FOR A COVER, WHAT IS THIS PERSON DOING COVER, WHAT IS THIS PERSON DOING ON THE FRONT OF MEN’S JOURNAL.
ON THE FRONT OF MEN’S JOURNAL. >> DID THAT LOOK TO YOU LIKE >> DID THAT LOOK TO YOU LIKE THEIR EFFORT TO COVER UP THE THEIR EFFORT TO COVER UP THE FACT THAT THEY ORIGINALLY THEY FACT THAT THEY ORIGINALLY THEY WANTED TO BURY THESE STORIES AND WANTED TO BURY THESE STORIES AND NOW PUT HER ON A COVER THAT NOW PUT HER ON A COVER THAT EVERYONE NOTICED WAS ODD, AT EVERYONE NOTICED WAS ODD, AT BEST. BEST. >> I THINK WHAT THEY WERE DOING >> I THINK WHAT THEY WERE DOING IS THEY WERE LIVING UP TO THEIR IS THEY WERE LIVING UP TO THEIR CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT TO PUT HER CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT TO PUT HER ON A COVER. ON A COVER. >> DID YOU GET THE IMPRESSION >> DID YOU GET THE IMPRESSION THAT SDNY WAS LOOKINGHETHER THAT SDNY WAS LOOKINGHETHER THE ENQUIRER BROKE ANY LAWS IN THE ENQUIRER BROKE ANY LAWS IN ITS SERVICE OF DONALD TRUMP? ITS SERVICE OF DONALD TRUMP? >> YES, ABSOLUTELY.
>> YES, ABSOLUTELY. >> AND DO YOU THINK THEY’RE DONE >> AND DO YOU THINK THEY’RE DONE AND THAT MEANS NO ONE’S GETTING AND THAT MEANS NO ONE’S GETTING CHARGED WITH THAT. CHARGED WITH THAT. SOMETIMES THEY LOOK AT THINGS SOMETIMES THEY LOOK AT THINGS AND THAT’S THE END OF IT, OR DO AND THAT’S THE END OF IT, OR DO YOU THINK THERE COULD BE MORE? YOU THINK THERE COULD BE MORE? >> YOU KNOW, IT’S TOUGH FOR ME >> YOU KNOW, IT’S TOUGH FOR ME TO SAY. TO SAY. I THINK THAT THE INVESTIGATION I THINK THAT THE INVESTIGATION IS VERY COMPARTMENTALIZED, AND IS VERY COMPARTMENTALIZED, AND EVEN THOUGH I SPENT A LARGE EVEN THOUGH I SPENT A LARGE AMOUNT OF TIME WITH THE AMOUNT OF TIME WITH THE OFFICIALS AT THE SDNY, YOU KNOW, OFFICIALS AT THE SDNY, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEIR MOTIVATION IS AND WHAT THEIR MOTIVATION IS AND WHERE THEY’RE GOING, I JUST WHERE THEY’RE GOING, I JUST DON’T KNOW.
DON’T KNOW. FROM PUBLIC REPORTING, I FROM PUBLIC REPORTING, I UNDERSTAND THAT AT LEAST THE TWO UNDERSTAND THAT AT LEAST THE TWO TOP EXECUTIVES AT AMI AND ALSO TOP EXECUTIVES AT AMI AND ALSO THE CORPORATION ITSELF ENTERED THE CORPORATION ITSELF ENTERED INTO A NON-PROSECUTION INTO A NON-PROSECUTION AGREEMENT, AND I THINK THAT AGREEMENT, AND I THINK THAT PROBABLY REALLY PROMPTED MICHAEL PROBABLY REALLY PROMPTED MICHAEL COHEN’S CHANGE OF PLEA TO COHEN’S CHANGE OF PLEA TO GUILTY. GUILTY. >> BECAUSE MICHAEL COHEN WAS >> BECAUSE MICHAEL COHEN WAS INVOLVED IN THE "NATIONAL INVOLVED IN THE "NATIONAL ENQUIRER" AGREEMENTS AS WELL? ENQUIRER" AGREEMENTS AS WELL? >> THAT’S WHAT I UNDERSTAND. >> THAT’S WHAT I UNDERSTAND. I DON’T KNOW THAT FIRSTHAND. I DON’T KNOW THAT FIRSTHAND. >> BUT YOU TALK TO COHEN ALL >> BUT YOU TALK TO COHEN ALL TIME. TIME. DOESN’T THAT RAISE THE BLAME ON DOESN’T THAT RAISE THE BLAME ON THE ENQUIRER? THE ENQUIRER? WHY WOULD THEY NEED MICHAEL WHY WOULD THEY NEED MICHAEL COHEN IF THEY JUST WANTED, AS COHEN IF THEY JUST WANTED, AS YOU PUT IT, TO RUN THAT COVER YOU PUT IT, TO RUN THAT COVER STORY UNRELATED TO TRUMP ZBLM? STORY UNRELATED TO TRUMP ZBLM? >> LOOK, I DON’T THINK THE >> LOOK, I DON’T THINK THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OR THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OR THE SDNY GIVES ANYTHING AWAY FOR SDNY GIVES ANYTHING AWAY FOR FREE.
FREE. I KNOW THAT THEY DID GIVE AT I KNOW THAT THEY DID GIVE AT LEAST MR. PECKER AND HOWARD LEAST MR. PECKER AND HOWARD IMMUNITY AGREEMENTS AND IMMUNITY AGREEMENTS AND NON-PROSECUTION AGREEMENTS. NON-PROSECUTION AGREEMENTS. AND SHORTLY AFTER THAT, IT’S MY AND SHORTLY AFTER THAT, IT’S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT MR. COHEN DID UNDERSTANDING THAT MR. COHEN DID CHANGE HIS PLEA TO GUILTY. CHANGE HIS PLEA TO GUILTY. SO, I THINK YOU PUT TWO AND TWO SO, I THINK YOU PUT TWO AND TWO TOGETHER. TOGETHER. BUT THAT’S ABOVE MY PAY GRADE. BUT THAT’S ABOVE MY PAY GRADE. >> WHILE WE’RE ABOVE YOUR PAY >> WHILE WE’RE ABOVE YOUR PAY GRADE, KEITH, DO YOU GET THE GRADE, KEITH, DO YOU GET THE IMPRESSION THAT THE PROSECUTORS IMPRESSION THAT THE PROSECUTORS AT SDNY ARE LOOKING AT AT SDNY ARE LOOKING AT WRONGDOING OR POTENTIAL CRIMES WRONGDOING OR POTENTIAL CRIMES BY DONALD TRUMP HIMSELF? BY DONALD TRUMP HIMSELF? >> YOU KNOW, I DON’T KNOW ANY OF >> YOU KNOW, I DON’T KNOW ANY OF THAT FIRSTHAND. THAT FIRSTHAND. WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT IT — WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT IT — YOU KNOW, ANY CASUAL OBSERVER YOU KNOW, ANY CASUAL OBSERVER WITH ANY KIND OF LEGAL TRAINING WITH ANY KIND OF LEGAL TRAINING THAT LOOKS AT THE PLEA AGREEMENT THAT LOOKS AT THE PLEA AGREEMENT OF MICHAEL COHEN AFTER HE OF MICHAEL COHEN AFTER HE CHANGED HIS PLEA TO GUILTY, IT’S CHANGED HIS PLEA TO GUILTY, IT’S CLEAR THAT THIS — THAT THERE CLEAR THAT THIS — THAT THERE IS — THEY’RE ALLEGING A IS — THEY’RE ALLEGING A CONSPIRACY AND THAT THERE’S CONSPIRACY AND THAT THERE’S UNNAMED CO-CONSPIRATORS.